Introduction Organs/tissues are removed at a
post mortem examination which is normally carried
out by a Pathologist. There are two types of post
mortem, a Coroner's post mortem and a Hospital
post mortem. The vast majority of post mortems
are ordered by a Coroner who does not need the
permission of any relative. Hospital post mortems
require permission from a relative and a consent
form would need to be signed.
The Information you need to have at your fingertips
before you start;
Have the details of your child/relatives
date of birth, death of death and full name
and address at the time of death with you.
Have a pen and paper ready to make notes
of any conversations that you have. Take the
name of the person you speak to and also their
position. Make a note of the date and time that
you spoke to them and what was said. Also note
if they say that they will call you back. Ask
them WHEN they expect to get back to you.
If you are concerned that the hospital may
have retained organs from your child/relative
you have a right to be told the truth about
what may have been retained.
Preparing to ask questions
Ask whatever questions you want to.
It may be helpful to write down the questions
you want to ask in advance.
The answers should be given in terms that
you can understand. If you don't understand,
say so, and ask them to explain more clearly.
Questions you may want to ask
Was it a Hospital post mortem.
Was it a Coroner's post mortem.
Why wasn't my informed consent sought
What organs/tissues were retained
Whose decision was it to retain organs/tissue.
Why were they retained.
Are they still kept at the hospital.
Have they been transferred to another hospital.
Have they been disposed of
Are they still being used at the Hospital
for
a. teaching/education purposes
b. audit
c. research
1. What specific research project
2. Can you have a copy of the findings
3. were you retaining organs/tissue from other
people for the same research project
How many organs have they got in the Hospital
How is the issue of organ retention being
dealt with now
How does the Hospital/Coroner (as appropriate)
ensure that informed consent, based on real
choice, is obtained before organs are retained
When did they introduce this new procedure
Tell the Hospital/Coroner that you may have
further questions in the future. Get the details
of who you should speak to and their telephone
number/address.
Some parents/relatives have found it beneficial
to see the organs and you may wish to raise
this with them
Who to Ask
The Hospital where your child/relative died or
where the body has been taken. Ask to speak to
the Chief Executive. He or She is the person responsible
for the running of the Hospital. He or She may
refer you to a help-line that they might have
already set up to deal with enquiries.
If the Hospital has closed down contact the Regional
Health Authority for advise for which Hospital
to contact.
The Coroner - If your child/relative had a Coroner's
post mortem. Contact the Hospital as above or
contact The Coroner's Office directly.
How the information will be given
When they will get back to you. - in some
cases it may only take a few hours or the following
day. In others, it may take a couple of weeks
Inform them of how and when you want to be
given the information;-
A) By letter - you can choose when to open the
letter and read the contents
B) By phone - tell them to phone when it is
convenient for you.
C) By appointment with someone in the Hospital.
Who will be available for you to talk to
for further information, immediately,
later that day or within the next few days.
Many parents/relatives like to meet with either
the Chief Executive, the relevant doctors and
/ or the pathologist for more detailed information.
Choices you may wish to make
You can have your child/relatives organs
returned to you for burial/Cremation or you
may wish for them to remain in the Hospital/Laboratory
or for the Hospital to dispose of them.
Take as long as you like to decide what choice
you want to make. Tell the Hospital to keep
the organs while you do so. Some people have
taken several years to decide what is right
for them.
If the Hospital and / or Coroner have retained
organs, then it should be the responsibility
of the Hospital / Coroner to carry out your
wishes in re-uniting the organs with the deceased.
This may range from actually carrying out all
the arrangements to giving advise and practical
help and or bearing he financial cost.
Alternatively, you can choose to collect
the organs yourself or appoint a Funeral director
to do this for you.
Burial
If your child/relative was buried you may
bury the organs with the body once
A) permission is given by the local council
B) permission is given by the relevant church
The Funeral Director should be able to arrange
his for you
A childs body occupies half of an adults
grave. The organs can be buried without disturbing
the coffin.
Organs cannot be buries when the deceased
was cremated.
Cremation
1. If your child/relative was cremated, you
may cremate the organs once
A) permission is given by the Superintendent
at the Crematorium NB Both the Church and the Crematorium
will need verification (paperwork) from the
Hospital to show that the organs belong to your
child / relative.
If there is any information that you think would
be beneficial to have in this information pack,
lease do contact us and let us know. If you need
further advise or assistance, please get in touch
and we will do what we can to help.
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